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Women in the church since vatican ii from november 1 1986 we know that both men and women are equal before god today women are showing themselves more and more capable of the myriad . Before is the horrible example after is the marvelous desired result of using the product vatican ii is not often viewed in a before and after light to appreciate what has come after vatican ii it is useful to examine what the church was like before vatican ii this examination is for the american church statistics show a quantitive . A young man was listening to me talk to someone about the problems in the our catholic church he asked me what is wrong in the catholic church this young man is too young to know how great the catholic church was before vatican ii most people were not born then to know how healthy the church was before all they have is now and no experience with what it was like in the church before 1965. Prather said the teachings of vatican ii are the basis for the new evangelization we wouldnt have the new evangelization if we hadnt had vatican ii one challenge that still exists 50 years after vatican ii is we still dont have a positive identity for the laity because laity are defined by being the non ordained prather lamented. 3 before vatican ii the average parish lay woman were most likely to be found in the altar society or holy name society today almost 50 of all administrative positions in dioceses are held by women before vatican council ii catholic men frequented the sacraments took family responsibilities seriously and filled the seminaries